Hear LAWG's director talk on Chicago Public Radio's Worldview program about the "two Colombias" : The one in which the war is winding down and all is going well; and the other one, in which hundreds of thousands of people are still fleeing their homes from violence, the army as well as guerrillas and paramilitaries are killing civilians, and the government is illegally wiretapping the institutions that are the basic building blocks of democracy.

Click here to listen to it on the Chicago Public Radio website.